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Tonelab LE Presets

Playing4One's picture

I was wondering if anyone had some sort of spreadsheet that would give the descriptions of the presets along with their settings. I thought that this might come in handy when trying to create my own patches. If anybody nows were I could get something like this I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks Everybody

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coachz's picture

the default patches suck.

the default patches suck. These should keep you busy !
www.kfocus.com/LEpatches.zip

mself61's picture

thats if he has an LE I

thats if he has an LE I guess, but there are tones of SE patches around as well. having the Editor makes everything soooo easy, also Kaal's whatisit may help if your looking to copy someones sound.

www.selfdistruction.com
http://groups.google.com/group/tonelab-patch-exchange

coachz's picture

true, the editor is dreamy

true, the editor is dreamy

Playing4One's picture

I have the LE model. I

I have the LE model. I actually really like the SRV, May Day, AC30T, Finepitch & Strings patches. I play in a church setting more often than not. I really use the SRV setting and the AC30T for the base sound of the unit. I then of course add my own little tweaks to them such as tap tempo 1/4 delays or 3/4. I also use the ModDelay as my modulation more often than any of the other modulations.

But for the grace of GOD!

ft_hummer's picture

how do I convert these

how do I convert these patches to se patches?

ft_hummer's picture

how do I convert these

how do I convert these patches to se patches?

mself61's picture

you can also get it from

you can also get it from here ....
http://groups.google.com/group/tonelab-patch-exchange

ft_hummer's picture

how do i get the converter

how do i get the converter to work? I just downloaded it but can't seem to get it working right.

kaal's picture

To use the converter,

To use the converter, download the TonelabConverter.exe and the 2 XML files and put them in a directory on your PC.
Doubleclick Tonelabconverter.exe and allow Windows to run it when it asks.

You will see 2 windows - a blue one (TLSE), and a grey one (TLLE). You can open TLP files in the blue TLSE area, and you can open TLLP files in the grey TLLE area. The converter can convert in both directions (TLLE to TLSE, and TLSE to TLLE).

Step by Step instructions to convert a TLSE patch to TLLE:
1) start the converter by doubleclicking Tonelabconverter.exe
2) In the blue TLSE windows, click "File", "Open".
3) in the file selection window, traverse to the directory where the TLP file is located, and doubleclick the TLP file you want to load.
4) The patches in the TLP file are displayed. Use the mouse or the up/down arrow keys to walk through the list of patches. All the detailed settings of the currently selected patch are displayed in the lower area of the blue window.
5) To convert the currently selected patch, click "Convert", "Convert to LE" in the blue TLSE window. Now you will see the patch in the grey TLLE window as well.
6) repeat the steps to convert more patches if you want. When you converted all patches you need,
7) in the grey TLLE window, click "File", "Save" (or "save as" ).
8) traverse to the directory where you want to store the converted patches, give the file a name, and save it.
9) Use the TLLE Soundeditor to load the converted patches to your TLLE.
10) you may need to adjust the volume of the converted patch (Channel Volume or - on TLLE only - program volume), as with any patch you download from somewhere - players volume settings are quite different, and the TLSE and TLLE differ as well in this respect.

Converting a TLLP (TLLE) file to TLP (TLSE) is done likewise, just "the other way round" - you start in the grey TLLE window and load a tllp file.

Preferences:
There are some more sophisticated settings available when you click "File", "Preferences" in any of the 2 windows. There you can set the general behaviour of the converter, like defining a TLLE program level for patches converted from TLSE, or how to handle the A/B channels which exist on the TLSE but are not available on the TLLE. The options there are quite self-explanatory when you are aware of the differences between TLSE and TLLE.

Conversion Tables, XML files:
And finally, you can fully control the behaviour of the converter by clicking "Convert","Edit conversion table". This allows you to define (for each model and each parameter) how ot should be "mapped" from TLSE to TLLE and vice versa. Here you define which pedal you want the converter to use instead of the METAL pedal when converting to TLSE (the TLSE does not have this pedal), or which reverb will be used instead of SPRING2 when converting from TLSE to TLLE (the TLLE does not have a reverb called SPRING2), or which value to use for the COMP attack when converting from TLLE to TLSE (the TLLE COMP pedal does not have an attack control). All these details ae stored - in the 2 XML files! So you really dont have to care about XML. We used our "best guess" settings for the converter, so the XML files already contain meaningful settings. You should get results that are immediately usable without any need to modify the conversion tables.

hth
Kaal

Playing4One's picture

The convertor is awesome but

The convertor is awesome but I am having a problem with it. I was trying to convert some files from Se to LE and it only converted the amp settings none of the effect settings were converted. Is this something that I need to change the settings for in the conversion tables?

But for the grace of GOD!

kaal's picture

I never seen such a problem

I never seen such a problem when testing the converter, and have no idea what could be the cause without knowing more details.

What do you mean by "the effects are not converted"? If you can load the resulting TLLP file, there MUST be some effect settings there (could be that the effects are all OFF, but the settings should be there in any case). Please explain in more details.

Can you provide a TLP file where you experienced this problem, and the file TonelabConverterSE2LE.xml from the converter's directory on your PC?
I'd like to try whether I can reproduce the problem here.

Kaal

Playing4One's picture

I will try and get something

I will try and get something up tonight when I get home from the office. I will have to look at it a little bit more also. I just happend to notice that the delay settings that were in the original SE version did not translate to the LE version, I could be wrong however. I do like the functionality of the convertor though. It saves a ton of time.

But for the grace of GOD!

Playing4One's picture

Here is a link to the SE

Here is a link to the SE patch file that I pulled off of this website.

http://www.tonelab.net/node/1524

It is a multiple preset patch that contains several presets.

But for the grace of GOD!

Playing4One's picture

I just realized what I did,

I just realized what I did, I didn't download all three files I'll bet that would do it blushing

But for the grace of GOD!

Playing4One's picture

Last night I download the

Last night I download the other 2 files and it worked flawlessly. This is a very nice program, it must have taken you some time to get it done. Thanks for making it, now I can download all of the other patches that were previously unavailible to me.

But for the grace of GOD!

kaal's picture

Kudos to Zeffi!!! he did all

Kudos to Zeffi!!!

he did all the design, programming and debugging work.

I was just involved in testing and discussed functions, fileformats and TLSE/TLLE differences with him.

Great it worked out that well. Not sure whether Zeffi is still watching this forum, but I believe he really deserves a huge applause for the converter.

Kaal

Playing4One's picture

I tip my hat to him. But for

I tip my hat to him.

But for the grace of GOD!

ft_hummer's picture

hi guys, i downloaded all

hi guys, i downloaded all three files, extracted to a directory, and still the converter won't work. An error message shows up saying that the program encountered an error upon inicialization. WTF?

coachz's picture

is there a setting for your

is there a setting for your midi ports you need to set ?

kaal's picture

Which OS do you use? I run

Which OS do you use? I run it on XP, no problem.

You also need the .net 2.0 framework installed as far as I remember. You can download it from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=...

If you dont have it, get it, install it, try to start converter again.

TTF!

Kaal

ft_hummer's picture

i'm working with XP, but not

i'm working with XP, but not the english version. I've never had this problem with anyother program. The Soundeditor works fine. No problems whatsoever.

ft_hummer's picture

Hey kaal, just installed the

Hey kaal, just installed the .net 2.0 framework and the converter works perfectly. Thanks a lot! Rock on!

mself61's picture

yeah... forgot about .net

yeah... forgot about .net framework, that will do it.
www.selfdistruction.com
http://groups.google.com/group/tonelab-patch-exchange

Playing4One's picture

Hey Kaal I got everything

Hey Kaal
I got everything runnig great on it but I am having one problem with the delays. After I have done the conversion with your program I check everything and it all appears to be correct but when I save the file and open it in the Vox Soundeditor all of the delays mix's & levels are set to zero. In the SE versions of the patches they all have the delays set to specific levels. I do have the latest .net framework but I also have Vista that could also be the problem, yeah Vista smile

But for the grace of GOD!

kaal's picture

Hi Josh, if you post the TLP

Hi Josh,

if you post the TLP where you encountered this issue (or send by eMail - see your PMs), I will try to reproduce it here on Win XP. That's all I can do since I did not program the converter and do not have the source code, but if there is an issue I will try to contact the developer and ask him whether he could look into it. I did actually do some tests with converting patches with delays earlier, and in the TLLE soundeditor I did see the same settings as in the TLSE soundeditor after conversion from tlp to tllp.

Kaal

kaal's picture

Hi Josh, just tried to

Hi Josh,

just tried to convert a patch containing the Echo Plus delay from TLSE to TLLE. It worked, all delay settings were converted.

Could it be that you changed the conversion settings? You could actually configure the converter to always set MIX to 0 for a specific delay. Make sure you also downloaded the 2 XML files from http://web.abo.fi/~skronber/Tonelab/ to the same directory as TonelabConverter.exe.

Which Delay is used in the TLSE patch you are trying to convert?

kind regards
Kaal

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