Okay... so I love literally 99% of the presets on the TLLE. Well, maybe not all of the 99%, but there are really only two which I find pretty much unusable. Those two, however, are so bad that I'm prompted to ask if they're really as bad as I think or if these two presets on my unit might be broken.
The two that I'm talking about are JIMIWHM and CRUNCH.
Moving the expression pedal on the JIMI pedal just makes the crunch sound oddly dissonant and I can't imagine being able to do anything with it.
Moving the expression pedal on CRUNCH just results in an almost sci-fi sounding whine that changes in pitch.
Do these sound familiar or are these two patches just messed up on my unit?
Now, mind you... I'm not complaining. I'm used to MFX pedals where the ratio of usable to what the heck is that is flip flopped and I've got maybe two that I would use on a regular basis. I really love most of the built in sounds and am already enjoying making my own.
== Sean
I'm surprised you like the
Tue, 2008/07/22 - 12:11am — PetrucciisGodI'm surprised you like the presets.. most people hate them.
Well as far as the default
Tue, 2008/07/22 - 3:48am — rojoWell as far as the default patches go i have a Tonelab SE, now for a long time i have been creating my own patches and they sound good but a little while ago i decided to reset the unit back to factory default ,well that was the best thing i have done, you see the default patches for me are a good starting point and then i tweaked the ones i need to {suit my amp and guitar} and i now have a sound and feel that is better and i have even gone back to the stock valve after trying many other brands and gain factors ,
so for all you default patch critics before you knock those default patches learn to use them with your guitar and amp and yes it will take some tweaking but i think you will hear what i mean
i believe the team at Vox/Korg know what they are doing when they create them.
Yep. It's like I said. Most
Tue, 2008/07/22 - 9:55am — BujinYep. It's like I said. Most of the time I hate 99% of the patches and only really find one or two that I would use in the real world. The LE is the first MFX pedal I've come across that really has a ton of usable sounds right out of the box. I'm sure I'll tweak them and come up with my own over time, but I really do like these.
== Sean
I personally really like the
Tue, 2008/07/22 - 9:57am — Playing4OneI personally really like the SRV, AC30 & May Day tones. I have done some mild editing to the SRV & AC30 tones but it was just a change to the delay and control switch. I made it so that the control is set for either 1/4 or 3/4 delay factors. There are several other presets that I do like but I just can't see myself using them in a church setting where I play. I don't like the 2 that you mentioned either.
Regarding your original
Tue, 2008/07/22 - 1:29pm — kaalRegarding your original question, the patches are not broken:
Moving the expression pedal on the JIMI pedal just makes the crunch sound oddly dissonant and I can't imagine being able to do anything with it.
-> The pedal controls the pitch of the pitch shifter in this patch, so that's why it sounds dissonant - you are actually "detuning" when moving the pedal. I didnt try it (just looked at the Soundeditor on my laptop here in the hotel where I currently am), but the mod delay in this patch probably adds an extra edge of strangeness to this, which should disappear after half a second or so (the delay time of the mod delay).
Moving the expression pedal on CRUNCH just results in an almost sci-fi sounding whine that changes in pitch.
-> The pedal changes the delay time in this patch - this causes the whine when moving the pedal quickly. I assume this has to do with the way digital delays work - something around changing the sampling/replay speed when changing the delay time, so the tone which is currently "travelling through time" in the delay is then "spit out" at a different speed and therefore changes pitch. This "symptom" goes away as soon as you stop moving the pedal. Move the pedal slooowly (or when not playing) to change the delay time without this whine.
You can easily assign another parameter (like volume for example) to the pedal.
VOX seems to use the presets also for "showcasing" what you CAN do, so there are some rather bizarre ones. Also, when playing with the presets, try to press the Control switch once (or even twice) - most presets have something assigned to it and you might be surprised.
Excellent. Thanks for taking
Wed, 2008/07/23 - 6:59am — BujinExcellent. Thanks for taking the time to look into how they are set up. It makes sense now that I understand that the pedal isn't intended to be used as an expression pedal, but just to set those effect parameters. I'll have to play with it some more to see if the sounds are interesting without touching the pedal.
the default patches on the
Sat, 2008/07/26 - 3:06am — coachzthe default patches on the LE suck IMO but luckily I am building a goldmine of patches which I will post once I get the volumes normalized.
Score: LE 100 Patches 2
A lot of it will also factor
Sat, 2008/07/26 - 3:52am — firebrandA lot of it will also factor in based on your guitar and your pickups. I have found standard-humbuckers with higher output require patches to be modified.
My Jeff Beck strat has just the right output and treble roll-off as it is to make a lot of the factory presets to shine with minimal adjustments based on my personal taste in effects. I have even used "Giro" a couple of times in jam//freestyle opportunities.
I had put EMG HZ pups in my Spirit Steinberger, but they were too brittle. Originally it came with Select pickups which were severly underpowered IMO, but they worked better. Unfortunately I sold them (and got a lot more than I thought I would).
So now I have installed 2 Ibanez INF humbuckers and just put a Blue Lace Sensor in the middle position (all for less than I sold the original Select pups for). I am testing it out tomorrow. We'll see how it goes