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A new ToneLab on the way ?!?

firebrand's picture

Vox has officially announced their "black diamond" modeling amp...
http://www.voxamps.co.uk/valvetronix/blackdiamond.asp
2 effect pedal modules up front...finally!
There is so much to parrot here...wow.
Should they make a Black Diamond ToneLab I will be bouncin off the walls.

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mself61's picture

BLACK DIAMOND SPECIFICATION

BLACK DIAMOND SPECIFICATION

* Amp Models: 32 models
* Effects: 25 types, 76 models(Pedal effect 1:3 types, 9 models, Pedal effect 2:11 types, 29 models, Modulation: 5 types, 20 models, Delay: 3 types, 12 models, Reverb: 3 types, 6 models, Noise Reduction)
* Programs: 128 (Preset 64)
* In/Outputs: 1 x Guitar Input, 2 x Send/Return (L & R), 1 x Send (Mono) , 1 x Headphone, Line Out (L & R), 2 x External Speaker Out (L & R), 1 x Foot Controller, 1 x MIDI In/Out
* Speaker: 2 x VOX Original Neo Dog 150W 12-inch, 8ohm (made by Celestion)
* Output Power: 200W(100W x2) RMS@8ohm
* Signal Processing: A/D Conversion 24bit, D/A Conversion 24bit, Sampling Frequency: 48KHz
* Power Supply Requirement: Local Voltage
* Power Consumption: 300W
* Tuner: Auto Chromatic Tuner [Measurement range: 27.5 Hz-2,093 Hz (A0-C7), Calib. A=438-445 Hz]
* Accessories: AC Cord
* Options: Foot Controller VC-12SV

I wonder how it sounds with an SE in front of it cheesey grin
how much is it going to crush your wallet ?
it looks like there may be some issues with the PEDAL effect and WAH, as the SE/LE is the same in the way you cannot used all at the same time, ie... Compressor and wah seems to be on the same selector switch, one of our most desired options to be able to use a compressor along with some of the other features on that selector.
BUT even still I can't wait to try one out.

they may just take the guts and create a TLIII.
Ultimately it would be great to have something like this HEAD and be able to plug in to cabs (or stacks) stereo.

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ChicoBluez's picture

An extra cab would be

An extra cab would be sweet.

Chico

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PetrucciisGod's picture

32 amp models?!?!?! Woah.

32 amp models?!?!?! Woah.

coachz's picture

holy crap !! I just bought

holy crap !! I just bought the LE but now it's time to start saving up again !

firebrand's picture

I am hoping the 32 amps are

I am hoping the 32 amps are a good diversity. Like the effects, why would I want 20 chorus pedals if 15 of them are based on one they already have modeled? Its funny to see some of the companies boasting "over 3 gazillion effects". If the model is a copy of a good pedal, I shouldn't need more than what Vox is doing.

I have been so happy with my SE. The "next gen" is going to really be something to replace it. The A/B amp on the SE is not something I am quite prepared to give up.

mp2old's picture

The only way I would

The only way I would consider letting go of my SE is if Vox came out with a real tube programmable preamp in the system. The ease of use and all in one combo of the SE is what made me dump my ADA MP-1 (still have my ADA MP-2).
Now if Vox came up with that combo, I would definately consider upgrading. Keep what ya got and make it better.

hotraman's picture

The Black Diamond looks

The Black Diamond looks interesting.
Nothing beats the SE as far as programming goes.
I agree with Firebrand... do you really need all of the
choruses?
I find a few favorites and stick with them.
How much does the Black Diamond amp weigh?
I groan every time I pick up my Atomic after a gig.

mself61's picture

Right Steve.... thats why

Right Steve.... thats why they should have made just a head to go with 1 or more cabs of your choice. (IMO). also I am trying to cut back on the effects on my SE to try and get real guitar/amp sounds out of it, so yeah... who needs all the FX .
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firebrand's picture

The Atomic is a

The Atomic is a heavyweight.
I owned a 112-50 thinking it would be smaller than my Vetta. It was, but not by much. Since then I have purchased a great little amp-a Traynor Custom Special 50. It does everything I wanted the Atomic to, complete with a presence control, and weighs about 18 pounds less and actually fits in the trunk of my Kia.

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